1 monthThey over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.
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As someone born and living in the US, I also don’t trust the US or China… or pretty much anyone with my data.
- 1 month
Weird, my pet said the same. Is your password also
*************?- FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 month
No, mine is
*****************, but I honestly like yours better.GayGoatFuckerhas a special ring to it that*****************doesn’t have.
Data isn’t very valuable if you can’t transmit it.
At some point you need to trust someone
- IratePirate@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
To be fair, I don’t trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: “Where there’s a trough, there will be pigs.” Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.
Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.
- 1 month
To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more “competitive” some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it’s just the realpolitik influencing decisions.
- Tiresia@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.
- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish1 month
Don’t pretend like Chat Control is ever going to get through.
Each time they are going to vote it down, it gets retracted and changed slightly so they can try again. And every time it gets voted down again.
Politicians know that they would get out-voted in the next election if they go through with it.
- Attacker94@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Iirc they just passed something that enforced the opposite to chat control to stop the constant reintroduction of the same over reaching law
- JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
And every year new open mass surveillance worse than the UK and US attempts to be passed and barely fails.
GDPR also doesn’t mean shit if it is barely enforced against large companies or the fines aren’t revenue-proportional… Then it is just a cost of doing business.
- CAVOK@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Let me assure you that in the large companies I’ve worked with, GDPR is taken very seriously.
- jumjummy@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Unless you’re Facebook or any other social media giant. GDPR is just an minor tax on their profit.
- chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Don’t kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it’s going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.
- mcv@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don’t have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.
Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.
- freely1333@reddthat.comEnglish1 month
Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
governments often buy data instead of obtaining the necessary warrants, because its easier and more effective. if they can’t buy it, they have to do it the harder way, and the harder way can be made even harder with legislation
- freely1333@reddthat.comEnglish1 month
The us isn’t fond of other countries spying on you either. The state has not relinquished any amount of power or control in my lifetime. Europe caring about privacy is a facade.
Boy do I have some news for you. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
https://youtu.be/Kw96Qh0-rs0 (Gotta use auto-subs)
- favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
- BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
That’s only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there’s a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.
- 1 month
I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.
China can’t do dick to me nor should they want to. I’m just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don’t wanna be caught up in that!
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them
- favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Yeah just don’t travel to China. Imagine how awkward it’ll be in the airport when they tell you, “sorry, we have all your porn history and we don’t admit folks with poop fetishes.”
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I’d like to think they’d be more accommodating.
“Ahhh Mr. Albatross, we’ve seen your social media traffic and we’ve been expecting you! In anticipation of your arrival, we’ve prepared some lovely poop, if you would just step this way…”
- 1 month
Or America, who will reject your Visa for having a meme of JD Vance on your phone
Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.
At least it’s better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.
- Hakuso@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish1 month
Honestly, I prefer someone else’s untrustworthy.
I don’t trust China at all, but I trust them over the US, if only because they have no stake in me as a foreigner.
They are all in on renewables. The US want everyone on oil and coal, the US wants the junky to keep and dependency.
We are the bad guys.
- markko@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
I don’t really see how that is relevant. Or how a country’s energy sources alone can determine whether they are “good” or “bad”.
It is an example of China being stable and the US being unreasonable and evil.
- markko@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
I don’t think it’s anything more than short-term versus long-term thinking.
I would not describe either country as “good”, but that has nothing to do with the above statement.
The us focusing exclusively on the short term is what I like consider evil, and the stability of a long term-term focus is good.
- Rooster326@programming.devEnglish1 month
Don’t trust anyone, not even yourself.
Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.
- 1 month
What’s an ass job? Like, butt stuff?
- acockworkorange@mander.xyzEnglish1 month
Still better. You’ll have to promise to share with 180 partners from the get go just to be close to the same level as them. And then do some chicanery.
- shirasho@feddit.onlineEnglish1 month
I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.
So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.
Even FOSS software? The Linux Foundation’s headquartered in the US.
I do get the rationale, but honestly you could just change that to “proprietary software” and you’d have more options with just as much data security.
- 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 month
Are you giving data to the Linux Foundation?
He clearly says “with my data”?
- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish1 month
Me neither, not even myself.
I forgot my own name. Can somebody tell me where my home is?
- lightnsfw@reddthat.comEnglish1 month
I don’t trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.
- doingthestuff@lemy.lolEnglish1 month
Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.
- Wilco@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
I dont trust the US with my data … or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.
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- bountygiver [any]@lemmy.mlEnglish1 month
Good, also don’t trust european firms either, don’t trust any corporations with your data.
- Azal@pawb.socialEnglish1 month
It’s amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There’s few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.
- 1 month
I’m American and don’t trust U.S. firms with data.
To be clear, I also don’t trust Chinese firms.
- filcuk@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
I don’t trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It’s bleak.
- Kkk2237pl@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.
9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.
9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo
Probably more in the realm of 99.999%. Without exaggeration. Some countries even use WhatsApp for government shit.
So sad, why would anyone freely use WA at all. People use tech without the slightest critique. Pure consumers…
- Hakuso@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish1 month
Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don’t trust them, either.
I’m down to Romania and Iceland, now.
Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.
I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they’re… Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.
