• FireWire400@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I hope Patreon will just switch off the ability to pay through the iOS app, along with a nice fuck you-message to Apple that pops up when you first open the app

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      13 hours ago

      Last time this came up Patreon simply allowed the creators to charge the commission directly on top of the price for non apple users, or eat the 30% loss. So everyone not using iOS would pay, say, $5/month, iOS users would pay $5+30%. Hope they retain that option.

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          2 hours ago

          Not that good, the backlash was immense and if I remember right, people were dropping patreon subs over it.

          EDIT: I might also not be remembering right. The thing I’m thinking of was an additional fee regardless of what platform you used to access Patreon.

        • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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          11 hours ago

          Is it? Previously this was considered tips

          Now it’s 30% for what? Running a payment gateway and hiding an unsubscribe button deep in the App Store UI.

          Competitively payment gateways charge 1-3%, but when you lock down a platform you can charge 10x that.

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          11 hours ago

          Yeah, I remember cause my Patreon account asked me what I wanted to do about apple trying to steal my money

          p.s. I never push Patreon so have no subs lol

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 hours ago

        Your math is wrong. If you want the creator to still get $5 with apple stealing 30% you would need to pay ~43% extra.

        $5/0.7 = $7.14

        1/0.7 = 1.42857

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          7 hours ago

          I don’t remember the math, there was a button to charge apple users more so we got what we were supposed to

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      12 hours ago

      It’s against App Store rules to inform your customers they’re being fucked by Apple in any way. If you do, they’ll take it down.

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      10 hours ago

      I was actually curious how this currently works as I’ve never used the Patreon app, so thanks for that. I’m sure it’s a nice convenience to be able to transact through the app, but not 30% passive Apple income levels of nice. It’s too bad they are stuck in their flat-rate commission model, because alienating third-party developers and businesses in this manner will kill their ecosystem.

      Can any current creators on Patreon provide some insight into how the revenue streams break down between the iOS/Android app platforms versus the website? What impact do you foresee if instead of a payment option in the app it simply directs you to the website?