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  • verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.frFrançais
    1·
    1 day ago

    Finland has learned nothing!!! They let Elop murder nokia for a swift US acquisition and now Re Hotard is going to do the same thing. We should resume using firing squads to deal with traitors, in this case, Nokia’s board of directors.

  • MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    13·
    2 days ago

    He swallowed the AI kool-aid and acts as a US’s Trojan horse. US has a hangover that they cannot shake off after selling their Alcatel Lucent to Nokia. I don’t hear Ericsson running around saying how much they depend on US technology, neither did Pekka.

    Don’t get me wrong, Ericsson has their own share of dirt, but the message changed drastically after Justin became CEO and not everyone is so excited as he is. This renders another question - what were the real reasons he was selected by the Board.

    • Sir. Haxalot@nord.redEnglish
      61·
      2 days ago

      I’m not sure what you mean, are you trying to imply that the EU at the current state is not dependent on US technology? Because I think that is simply not true at all. In general the US is massively ahead on tech (and not just AI) and a lot of EU companies has made themselves dependent on especially US cloud providers. I have worked on finding EU alternatives and while there are products that can work it’s usually clear that it’s somewhat behind and you’re playing catch up.

      It’s interesting to hear that there are at least some cases of the US also being dependent on EU technologies.

      Edit: Im not saying that it’s impossible or that we shouldn’t reduce our reliance on US techs and cloud products. Just that it’s delusional to pretend we aren’t behind.

      • MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        We are US dependent by choice, it’s going to take time, will and funds to unwind this, but I personally have doubts that the US is still the real tech leader.

        In grand scale, accounting for China, USA etc the EU is behind on everything, hard agree. Even german automakers are struggling now.

        US cloud providers - yes you are right. Hard pill to swallow. I agree with you on the count of our general dependency.

        Nokia’s Radio Access Networks - hardware manufacturing is done in Finland and India among other places, software development mostly EU. Hardware design was done to date by sites around the world, but Justin seeks to increase hardware design and manufacturing capacity in the US. And then the teams in US, are they going to prefer to design around and procure components from, say, Texas Instruments or some other European or Chinese company?

        I see Justin’s message as being consequential with his actions, he himself works to increase the dependency, not to reduce it.

        Can’t remember if it was somewhere here on Lemmy or not, but I’ve seen an article analyzing the situation and arguing that the real tech leader might already be China, US is not going to easily give up their position so a lot of kicking and screaming will come.